This is really helpful – thank you. I have a house that has had some asbestos disturbed. I was planning to buy a bunch of H13 purifiers, but with a 0.7 micron min particle size for asbestos, which is well above MPPS (0.3), I think H11 might be good enough running for a week in an unoccupied building. Can you explain how H11 filters can both be 99.97% [email protected] microns (comforting) but only 95%@MPPS for the EU H11 rating (less comforting)?
Hi Larry. Glad this article has proved useful in your quest to breathe safe, healthy air!
To clarify: H11 filters aren’t guaranteed to filter 99.97% of particles at 0.3 microns. They are certified to filter 95% of the MPPS, which could vary from about 0.1 to 0.3 microns. Here’s a better explanation on how lower class filters can do a better job of capturing smaller particles. Hope this helps!
Can you recommend some face masks that might be the best mix of price and performance? I’m currently unemployed and cannot afford the most expensive masks and replacing them every few hours. I realize that’s a challenging request, but any suggestions are welcome. Thank you.
Hi Irwin! In our own mask tests that we ran, we found the 3M 9332 and 3M 9010 to offer the best protection. The 3M 9010 came in much cheaper, so would probably be the best price to performance ratio you can get.
Having said that, surgical masks perform surprisingly well, considering they only cost a few cents. Here’a graph of the data:
Wow, that’s awesome! Thank you for performing such great and important work and sharing it with the public. Your team is performing a valuable service to the public and we really appreciate it!
Smart Air has been installing air purifiers in schools across the world for the past 6 years, and we also have an experienced team who can help schools keep safe. We will send you an email to see how Smart Air can help you out.
I have TILT. Every little toxin or chemical in the air that everyone else breathes normally, makes me feel sick. Car/factory exhaust, fragrances, laundry detergent, wood stain, carpeting, etc, etc, are especially affecting me. What can I do to help make my air the cleanest possible?
Fantastic explanation! You are a great teacher!!
Bottom line: particle size, static force attraction, Brownian movement all contribute to filtration.
Some experts are stuck on particle size alone, downplaying the importance of masks and filtration devices.
Using the concept of Minimal Infective Dose, REDUCING the viral particles inhaled is pivotal in reducing the chance of an infection, even if we are exposed.
Hi,
In current filters, electrostatic forces matter, not just Brownian diffusion, and the actual MMPS is lower, around 30-100nm. Nice review here: doi:10.1007/s11051-009-9649-3.
Hello, I’ve been a nurse for 25 years, have lived thru one pandemic, and am mortified by the fact that medical workers don’t have the proper PM masks to keep them safe.. I have a degree in design as well and would like to create, for my self, and my coworkers the proper PPE’S. Do you sell this fabric and if not could you refer me to some one who does. Any information you provide me would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Roberto, Liz here! Unfortunately we do not sell the materials tested. We do have the HEPA filter but not the HEPA sheet. If you plan to get HEPA sheet as DIY mask material, the best thing is to contact with a HEPA manufacturer. Make sure that the HEPA is made of PP/PET instead of glass fiber! Stay safe!
Roberto please guide us if you find something to protect yourself. We too want to distribute something which will protect us and fellow medics, paramedics and police people against this.
Hello Roberto: I am immunocompromised and have many underlying conditions. I am trying to find this filter as well as my son will be returning to work as well as 520 employees without room for social distancing. if you will kindly email me with the mask and filter solution you may have found I would be forever grateful. Thank you.
Hello Roberto, If you were successful in locating the HEPA PP/PET material for DIY masks, please be aware that any washing or even disinfectant spraying of the material to wash and reuse will destroy the electrostatic properties of the material. Stanford University has been doing great research on this and they recommended steaming the N95 masks to clean them for re-use. Lorraine D., RN, CCM/TEXAS.
Hi, two points from doi:10.1007/s11051-009-9649-3 :
– “Most respirators made in the last decade containing N95 filter media:use electret filter media” … “imparting a static electric charge on non-woven polymer fibers (e.g., polypropylene”. I would guess this is more important than Brownian diffusion.
– Their experimental MMPS is in the range 30–100 nm
Hi. Myself and many of my friends want to help our local healthcare providers during the viral pandemic. They have run out of face masks in many areas but it will only get worse.
I’m now working from home as are many of my friends. We also have many friends who do not work but are home in isolation.
What I would like to know is if it would be possible to get the materials that you use for air filters BEFORE they are pleated so that we could use them to make face masks to donate to our healthcare providers?
Please let me know what the costs would be. I am trying to get the total costs down as much as possible and we will all go in together to help pay for it.
Thank you for your kind help and attention to this situation.
Sincerely,
Carla Hart
This is really helpful – thank you. I have a house that has had some asbestos disturbed. I was planning to buy a bunch of H13 purifiers, but with a 0.7 micron min particle size for asbestos, which is well above MPPS (0.3), I think H11 might be good enough running for a week in an unoccupied building. Can you explain how H11 filters can both be 99.97% [email protected] microns (comforting) but only 95%@MPPS for the EU H11 rating (less comforting)?
Hi Larry. Glad this article has proved useful in your quest to breathe safe, healthy air!
To clarify: H11 filters aren’t guaranteed to filter 99.97% of particles at 0.3 microns. They are certified to filter 95% of the MPPS, which could vary from about 0.1 to 0.3 microns. Here’s a better explanation on how lower class filters can do a better job of capturing smaller particles. Hope this helps!
Fascinating and informative article! Thanks!
Can you recommend some face masks that might be the best mix of price and performance? I’m currently unemployed and cannot afford the most expensive masks and replacing them every few hours. I realize that’s a challenging request, but any suggestions are welcome. Thank you.
Hi Irwin! In our own mask tests that we ran, we found the 3M 9332 and 3M 9010 to offer the best protection. The 3M 9010 came in much cheaper, so would probably be the best price to performance ratio you can get.
Having said that, surgical masks perform surprisingly well, considering they only cost a few cents. Here’a graph of the data:
Wow, that’s awesome! Thank you for performing such great and important work and sharing it with the public. Your team is performing a valuable service to the public and we really appreciate it!
Interested in clean air in schools and ac. rooms
Hi Chanashetti,
Here is one article on how schools can get clean air and stay protected from COVID.
Smart Air has been installing air purifiers in schools across the world for the past 6 years, and we also have an experienced team who can help schools keep safe. We will send you an email to see how Smart Air can help you out.
I have TILT. Every little toxin or chemical in the air that everyone else breathes normally, makes me feel sick. Car/factory exhaust, fragrances, laundry detergent, wood stain, carpeting, etc, etc, are especially affecting me. What can I do to help make my air the cleanest possible?
Hi, what about carbon filters? They are about to filter VOC, so does they filter 0.3 AND smaller particles?
Carbon filters filter out VOCs, but not particles. Check out this article covering all the types of filters, what each of them does.
Fantastic explanation! You are a great teacher!!
Bottom line: particle size, static force attraction, Brownian movement all contribute to filtration.
Some experts are stuck on particle size alone, downplaying the importance of masks and filtration devices.
Using the concept of Minimal Infective Dose, REDUCING the viral particles inhaled is pivotal in reducing the chance of an infection, even if we are exposed.
Hi,
In current filters, electrostatic forces matter, not just Brownian diffusion, and the actual MMPS is lower, around 30-100nm. Nice review here: doi:10.1007/s11051-009-9649-3.
Me too thought same. The N95 and other masks provide protection against COVID due to these electrostatic forces also. What’s your opinion about this.
Hello, I’ve been a nurse for 25 years, have lived thru one pandemic, and am mortified by the fact that medical workers don’t have the proper PM masks to keep them safe.. I have a degree in design as well and would like to create, for my self, and my coworkers the proper PPE’S. Do you sell this fabric and if not could you refer me to some one who does. Any information you provide me would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Roberto, Liz here! Unfortunately we do not sell the materials tested. We do have the HEPA filter but not the HEPA sheet. If you plan to get HEPA sheet as DIY mask material, the best thing is to contact with a HEPA manufacturer. Make sure that the HEPA is made of PP/PET instead of glass fiber! Stay safe!
Roberto please guide us if you find something to protect yourself. We too want to distribute something which will protect us and fellow medics, paramedics and police people against this.
Hello Roberto: I am immunocompromised and have many underlying conditions. I am trying to find this filter as well as my son will be returning to work as well as 520 employees without room for social distancing. if you will kindly email me with the mask and filter solution you may have found I would be forever grateful. Thank you.
Hello Roberto, If you were successful in locating the HEPA PP/PET material for DIY masks, please be aware that any washing or even disinfectant spraying of the material to wash and reuse will destroy the electrostatic properties of the material. Stanford University has been doing great research on this and they recommended steaming the N95 masks to clean them for re-use. Lorraine D., RN, CCM/TEXAS.
Hi, two points from doi:10.1007/s11051-009-9649-3 :
– “Most respirators made in the last decade containing N95 filter media:use electret filter media” … “imparting a static electric charge on non-woven polymer fibers (e.g., polypropylene”. I would guess this is more important than Brownian diffusion.
– Their experimental MMPS is in the range 30–100 nm
Hi. Myself and many of my friends want to help our local healthcare providers during the viral pandemic. They have run out of face masks in many areas but it will only get worse.
I’m now working from home as are many of my friends. We also have many friends who do not work but are home in isolation.
What I would like to know is if it would be possible to get the materials that you use for air filters BEFORE they are pleated so that we could use them to make face masks to donate to our healthcare providers?
Please let me know what the costs would be. I am trying to get the total costs down as much as possible and we will all go in together to help pay for it.
Thank you for your kind help and attention to this situation.
Sincerely,
Carla Hart